20-09-2017 06:10 AM - edited 20-09-2017 06:12 AM
20-09-2017 06:10 AM - edited 20-09-2017 06:12 AM
@eth, understandable that you might want an easy afternoon after an intense session. Fingers crossed for the phone numbers to follow up afterwards. Sounds like it might be good to have some friendly and interesting women to debrief with after the course, and to help each other in an ongoing way.
Interesting that you were challenged by one woman in the group. I went to a women's group last year but could only bear one session because of one woman in the group who dominated with hate filled monologues about her ex. I really felt the facilitator needed to pull this woman back from dominating so much, though I understood her anger and need. But in the absence of that boundary to meet the needs of all in the group, not just this one woman, I stopped going. I may try a different women's group in future, though I'm not that keen on 'instructional' groups at this time, more interested in shared therapeutic activities, such as art or laughter yoga.
@CheerBear, hope the little fish are all much more fit today, and that your plans with your MH worker ease your mind. Ciao for now.
20-09-2017 06:19 AM
20-09-2017 06:19 AM
Hope you get to make your plans @CheerBear. Have a good day.
@Mazarita I'm listening to the "F&*k That" meditation on facebook. It's soooo funny. Having a good loud chuckle. I have to disappear for a few minutes but will be back in a little while if you're still here. I'll write a bit about THE woman when I return. ... it might be a long rave!
20-09-2017 06:20 AM
20-09-2017 06:20 AM
@eth Last year I was inspired by @oceangirl to volunteer at a zoo. I started work in February It is flexible and a good fit for me and part of my fitness as it is outdoorsy and I can always put in a few circuits of a gorgeous garden or a natural river track ... as well as learn about latest conservation ideas, issues and approaches.
Living Beyond Abuse sounds like something I could benefit from in a couple of months.
Art class sounds great too.
20-09-2017 06:25 AM - edited 20-09-2017 06:28 AM
20-09-2017 06:25 AM - edited 20-09-2017 06:28 AM
Good morning, @Appleblossom. How often do you volunteer at the zoo? It really seems like such a wonderful activity in your life. How great that it was inspired by @oceangirl here on the forum. I too have been inspired in so many ways by things people have shared on the forum over the years.
@eth, I think I'll be here for a little while yet. Will have a shower about 8am and then it will be all systems readying for the morning appointment here. I may have another of those nasty 'examinations' I love to hate. Also hoping I don't crash after this appointment, like I did for at least two days after last week's surgeon's appointment. Art group afterwards may help with that. Feel free to 'long rave' about 'the woman' in your group.
20-09-2017 06:40 AM
20-09-2017 06:40 AM
Sounds like an excellent spot to volunteer at @Appleblossom. The course is run by Baptist Care at the local women's centre - you could enquire with them about doing it where you are. It's about domestic and sexual assault and is mostly educational rather than directly therapeutic. I have gotten a lot out of doing it, particularly about forming new and healthy relationships.
@Mazarita I hope your doctor's ap't isn't too invasive this time. I'll go out around 7 to water the garden - we have lots of babies at the moment.
Will post about THE woman in my next post.
20-09-2017 06:42 AM
20-09-2017 06:42 AM
@eth, I've already watered a couple of plants here this morning, unusually active at an early hour today!
20-09-2017 06:49 AM
20-09-2017 06:49 AM
It is really weird but until recently I thought I did not fit into the sexual assualt type of workshops but that has all changed. Now I could probably get a lot out of it. Now it is obvious there were a huge series of assualts. I must have internalised mother's blame mantle without even knowing, in spite of all the work I had done on myself.
It was discovered in my state ward file, and about 20 events and deep seated reactions all made more sense. So not all bureacratic stuff is useless. So much to reprocess atm, it is hard for me to stay in my skin.
I will be safe, so no worries.
The forum is my life line.
Thanks @eth will be good for later.
20-09-2017 07:02 AM
20-09-2017 07:02 AM
@Mazarita soooo .....
She is the only other older woman in the group. She's been late and left early almost every session. She seems to expect to be treated as the elder - she knows more than the rest of us and expects her word to be accepted by all. (In my book respect has to be earned and you have to show some to get some no matter what your age is). At the first session when I shared she was next to me and grabbed my hand and held it for some time. Eventually I turned my hand palm up and spread it out to get her to let go. So I felt she had some focus on me right from the start. Then at one session we disagreed about the meaning of the word chagrin. She spoke loudly over the top of me, repeating her definition 3 times to the younger women. When I came home I looked it up and I had been right, but I chose not to bring it up again with her.
Then last week I shared that I'd had contact with the Victims of Crime people and had been told I was outside the time limits (10 years for rape and 2 years for domestic violence). I had spoken at length on the phone with the facillitator of our group about this as I was shattered by it. Anyway when I said it she loudly said " There's no time limit. I've had a pay out from them. There's no time limit." I was sitting directly opposite her and said that that was what I'd been advised by VoC only a week earlier. (Maybe she did it before their time limits were introduced or in a different state, who knows? I didn't ask these things because of the way she was loudly insisting I was wrong). This happened immediately before the morning break. As I was upset and shaking I headed for the door to go outside for a smoke. She yelled my name from the other side of the room. I turned towards the door and flicked my hands backwards (to say I'm not responding) and kept walking. I didn't make eye contact with her for the rest of the session. For the record, I am not seeking a payout anyway. I am seeking ongoing counselling that I can afford.
To top it all off, she offered everyone in the group a session with her (turns out she's a homoeopath and a COUNSELLOR!!!) and when we came in for the break she had put her business card in everyone's handouts. She put 2 in mine!
The facillitator talked with me for about 1/2 hour afterwards and said she'll say something about accepting each other's truth this week. She also said promoting her work was completely out of line and would be discussed with THE woman.
I feel like today I'm going to have to go with defenses and strategy in mind, instead of just feeling safe in the group. I don't handle conflict at the best of times. It makes me want to run. If she approaches me I'm going to say "I'm not dancing" and walk away, but I know even this will have a strong effect on me.
Rant over!
The garden can wait a bit longer
20-09-2017 07:07 AM
20-09-2017 07:07 AM
Sorry to hear that @Appleblossom. I'm hoping you are getting good support around those matters. Sending you support
20-09-2017 07:14 AM
20-09-2017 07:14 AM
@eth, I admire your commitment in continuing to go to the group with that woman in it. She sounds like very hard work, especially that she seems to have fixed on you. The hand holding made me shudder. We really need to be very sensitive to whether the other person wants physical contact when they are sharing in that context. Ah well, today is the last time you'll have to see here hopefully!
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