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@Former-Member , I tear-up at the drop of a hat. Anything can be a catalyst, even tissue adverts if there is someone doing something nice for someone like dabbing water off a little duckling's beak or something.
If I 'go with it" at that stage I seem to access a deep well of grief. I shy away from it, although truth be told I probably at some times would be best to 'go with it". There is an old Jewish proverb "Tears are to the soul, what soap is to the body".
Having a right to our own bodies (and everything that happens in them) including feelings is a feminist act. xx
I don't like to cry in 'self pity' though what's the point! My life is as it is. Every now and then I become hysterical, really hysterical and I think I have frightened myself on those occiaisons and am leary of letting myself 'go". It's a fine line to walk feeling feelings, these days I try to 'observe' my feelings (moods too) and just hold it with love and understanding - I fail alot at that - like yesterday when I ran away from my tears and talked about them here instead of 'holding' them gently. ha!
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Thanks for the link @CannonSalt
I also enjoyed the last youtube comment about the lyrics being from Ecclesiastes 3:1.
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Thanks for the link @CannonSalt
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@Appleblossom - I am a bit worried that you think my reply was a 'bother', it wasn't and I am sorry if you felt it was. I really don't understand your reference to the post being politically incorrect, but I hope I haven't inadvertently offended you.
It is a good question "What does unconditional acceptance mean? " Kind of like my struggles to 'accept' the unacceptable and coming to the conclusion that I do not accept the unacceptable (like the CSA I survived) but I can accept that the unacceptable happens and it happened to me.
I am so saddened by the struggle you have been through to be the best Mother to all of your children, the lack of support and help you (didn't) receive from the authorities, your hard lived life with them in very difficult circumstances. These are things outside of my lived experience having had only pregnancies that ended in miscarriage and finally an ectopic pregnancy in my 20's, thus not viable, that resulted in emergency surgery with massive scarring in my fallopian tubes. No baby and no possible fertility afterwards and a lifetime of gynae pain and problems. So, the only grief I have had to contend with in the realm of human children is the pre-natal loss and life-long lack of them.
I hear a heap of grief in your story and I can understand that you would "Cry Me A River " if you dwell on it. Living Grief is hard yards. I hope you can find some relief from that deep well sometimes. If discussing it here helps, I am glad of that too.
PS: I don't know who Robert Sapolsky is or his body of work or philosophy, but will look him up.
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@CannonSalt - "perhaps you didn't fail at observing and holding your feelings, but instead, you succeeded at talking about them here?" good take on it thank you, yes, in talking through it I understand more about it too, so perhaps this was 'observing' in a way too.
Thanks for the Byrds - Turn, Turn, Turn too. spot on for this discussion.
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