All things personality

[Spookytookims]

@CheerBear  wrote:     (I missed this question earlier so answering it now)  

"That then can lead to a challenge for INTPs to explain their thoughts without feeling like they are coming across as cold, insulting or analytical. A challenge it seems, is to connect with others in a meaningful way where things make sense and everyone is understood. What are your thoughts about this?"

hmmmm  cheerbear,    I don't think this is quite correct.  When I go to places and mix with people, like on the beginning of that podcast, people flock to me.  I don't get it because I don't really want it.  So others seem to connect with me but I don't connect with them. 

Online (text) is different because tone and smiles aren't seen so, in that way yes my words probably seem colder than intended because by nature I am analytical.

In real life, however, people ring me for advice, they seem to trust me because I am considered insightful and genuine, and that has always been the way.  So in that respect the connections are there from others to me, but I don't feel a connection to them, or rarely.

Coincidently, I  even found a quote relating to this and in fact and it is on that "picture" I mentioned to you.  This is the quote:

• "You have a wide variety of interests that allows others to connect to you at various levels,  however you rarely ever connect to them"

That gels with my experience more so than how they described it on that podcast.

[CheerBear]

Good morning @Spookytookims 🌞 Hope you slept well!

That's interesting that you didn't click with that podcast. I did like the first half of it more than the last and found I had to stop at times and go back to try and get what they were saying. Sorry it wasn't as much of a hit with you as I thought it might be. They're interesting if nothing else I think. I guess and a thinker, something will either work for you or not. I'd be curious to know what other INTPers thought about that podcast too.

I can see how people might flock to you and I'm not surprised that you have friends who trust you for your advice and insight. It does sound isolating when you talk about having people connect with you, but not being able to connect with people as often.

Hope you have a good day today and thanks again for the chat and food for thought!

[Spookytookims]

          @CheerBear, thought this a bit of fun for in here.  Tongue in cheek but probably a pretty good summary.

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[Former-Member]

As an INFJ lol sounds weird saying that
I dont really know if im good at weighing up pros and cons
@Spookytookims @CheerBear
Looking at personalities is quite interesting

[CheerBear]

 Love it @Spookytookims. Some of the one line summaries are good - there's soooooo much out there on it that a simple line can be helpful sometimes. Although as an INTP I don't know if information overload is a common problem for you 😉 I like this one too (pic below if my phone formats it properly).

It's a really interesting thing to delve into @Former-Member. While the idea of splitting the entire population into 16 groups has it's problems (lol), I think there's something in MBTI and other personality profile testy things. I've used it as a bit of a tool to guide me in understanding why I may or may not feel/think/behave a certain way. Obviously there are a bajillion possible factors to consider beyond personality, but it's a good starting point. How much we are shaped by biology and environment is another question I find interesting too.

[Spookytookims]

Oh yes @Former-Member the types are very interesting and the more you learn about them the better they are.

@CheerBear The thing I couldn't get my head around on that INTP podcast was how they described and depicted the INTP mind working in those frameworks.  We don't just hang the stuff like they said, that's way too disorganised.  It's more like frameworks, with filing cabinets next to them, or I 'd more liken it to jigsaw pieces where we have the developing picture, and a pile of not sure what to do with pieces next to it.

If we can't put something into a picture or framework comfortably, to our own rigorous standard, the  pieces or files go  "pending".   With enough follow up information, we decide whether to throw a piece out (delete a file), or have an "aha" moment and slot it into the framework or picture".

that idea of randomly hanging stuff all over those frameworks just sent my head into a spin and was a totally "no no no no" moment, because that's just not what we'd do.  That's far too higgeldy puggedly for our methodical minds.

Einstein was an INTP, as was Jung and Descartes. No way did they have random clotheslines hanging in their well ordered frameworks.  They'd never have been able to come up with their clean ideas if they were randomly hanging things all over the place.   

These 16 types are based on Jungs work.  The are delineated and clear, not bits hung all over the place.  And for those peeps on the podcast to suggest we don't contribute to the world.  Well, just mentioned some biggies and most o pf the technology we are using right now is thank you to an INTP thinking outside the box.

So not sure what they were talking about.  It was like they just didn't get INTP at all. Like they said, they had been surprised by their email response in that last 24  hours, which highlights how little they knew and were cobbling it together.  It showed.

[Spookytookims]

@CheerBear  and @Former-Member oh I just saw the diagram of your brains in the personality thread... that too I put in my collage of INTP. 

I was going to post it here but looks like I didn't.   I'm assuming because you posted yours it reflects fairly accurately?  I know mine does.  Haven't looked at the source of them but they are informative and presented in a fun fact way.

[Former-Member]

The cats and the one where im unique isnt me but the rest seems to be ok and the understanding others should be bigger and take out thr poetical thoughts abit too @CheerBear @Spookytookims

[Spookytookims]

that's really interesting @Former-Member   I will keep that in mind as I dissect your brain 🙂

[Former-Member]

Haha disect as much as you like @Spookytookims