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@REDLINEZ750 So good to hear you have been encouraged hearing us discuss the love of our life. There was a time Jesus did not mean this much to me. Years ago struck in my pit having been depressed for years and been suicidal for about a year and a half, i had secretly  my untimely demise fully prepared, and ready to execute.

 

Then one night, after 1am sometime, sitting in my chair, with my bible open on my lap but not reading it, struggling with hearing voices, hallucinations and hating myself. Living my Hell in all its gory detail real life.

 

When suddenly Jesus was with me. To my shame my first response was anger. i blasted Him for letting me down and not caring about me. i was truly being awful in my bitterness even thinking at the time He came to mock me down there.

 

However every accusation i fired His way Jesus send back with vision of myself, year in year out, doing to myself, what i charged Him doing to me. He showed through me through my own actions how years of believing the lies of my depression had gotten me where i was, and not Him. And that all the judgement i thought He had piled on me, was not ever Him doing that but me doing that to myself - time and again. And that He loved me, not hated me, like i did, and had preparing my own death, while He had Heaven laying ready for me

 

And even as i had raged at Him in my anger and bitterness, Jesus spoke to me in loving fellowship. Not exclusion, as the depression always made me feel, but inclusion. And so my heart melted His words and revelation of Himself within me. Then i was back on my own looking done on my bible laying open on my lap.

 

These words jumped out at me however, 'God cannot be mocked a man will reap what he sows.' Everything Jesus had shown me just before, about me generating my own misery heeding lies about God, myself and everything else is what was causing the depression to be so bad, no Jesus 'punishing' me for my sins, as i had erroneously been thinking for years on end on the bottom of it, but me generating ever more bad life heeding the lies of my depression.

 

And so i learned to heed the Spirit of Jesus, reading the word of God to my heart, ever after this  meeting with Jesus down deep, and no longer the spirit depression, who had been tormenting me  in my hell for so many years.

 

The witness of His love growing in my heart and undoing years of loveless suffering as He came along on my journey, was the very cloud of witness i have seen Him reign my life from ever since. Even as the Word of God has become God's love letter to me, instead of a religious historical document as it had so often been for me.

 

Hoping you find encouragement me sharing this with you. For in my books it is not us slacking off serving God that is our issue, as the accuser of the brethren so often accuses us off down deep, but the lies we believe about God, ourself as His children, and His other children around us, not loving Jesus for who He really is.

 

Jesus the Saviour of The World and The Goodness of God we may freely meet in our fallen human spirit, because He knows where the lies we believe have taken us. And not only does He know where the lies take us, He has overcome the bad life they brought us, and has ETERNAL life laying ready for us, ALIVE right on the bottom of our miserable life down deep.

 

i will love Jesus forever coming to my rescue, and showing me how to turn my depressive illness into a gold mine, instead of a black hole sucking me endlessly deep into Abyss below as been.

 

i wrote a poem about that time. i think i might have already shared it, but i'm not sure where on SANE i did.

 

See if you relate

 

 

Twice Blinded,

 

What destroyer, where could he be?

Yet that deadly snake bite I didn't see!

For part of myself was dragged away.

Held captive there by Wicked's sway.

 

All those lies sown in my mind and soul,

satan taking day by day more control.

Feeding my life his lies bringing misery.

For all my good times became history.

 

For lies bring thoughts and feelings around,

which are in no way true, good, or sound.

Producing inner kings cruel and strong,

sinful ways delivering ever more wrong.

 

Raising Babylon in all her unholy might.

Holding me captive, blinding my sight.

Denying God's grace to rule my ways,

mocking my loving Saviour in His face.

 

Seeing horse hooves trampling my soul!

Grass-hoppers devouring me in my all.

Massive scorpions wrongfulness stinging.

Inner famine only more famine bringing.

 

Sulphur and brimstone fry life in sins to ash,

massive hailstones my life in wrong to smash.

The darkness of my life ever growing close,

For those goats inside got me by the nose.

 

And so working for what is not true bread.

The Lord's redeeming grace I did forget.

Thinking my world would always stink,

driving all my good life to the outer brink.

 

Yet there at the bottom of my fleshly might.

His Word began to give me back my sight

Jesus, my Lord, whom I bring so much grief,

when I have that liar ruling as my chief!

 

And so The Light of Life did shine on me!

God's Spirit alive inside my heart to see!

What blinding light I saw displayed there?

God's love for me on display everywhere!

 

Christ's Blood washing me white as snow!

His loving truth inside my heart does flow!

Lamb of God forever i will give you praise!

For from the dead Your love did me raise.

 

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@ENKELI It's getting easier day by day but I still have urges and cravings, I just keep thinking of the pros of the version I am now being clean and sober and focusing on my mental health recovery.

A big congrats on quitting cigarettes as it's a tough one. I'm yet to quit vaping but that's next on my list.

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@DownMoreThanUp thank you for supporting me and sharing the Lords word. I'm still learning as i'm a born again Christian.

One verse that resonates with me on my journey is

Psalms 34:18 "The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit."

I'm connecting with my inner spirit again and the spirit of the Lord.

I've turned to the Lord to guide me with strength during this journey of Mental health and addiction challenges.

Psalms 46:1 - 3 "God is our refuge and strength , an ever present help in trouble."

😊🙏

In regards to fighting my addiction was to have willpower and visualising myself as a better version without drugs or alcohol.

Finding the Lord recently has helped me be more in control of my urges and cravings knowing that I am a better person now and I have the love, guidance and forgiveness he has blessed me with.

I'll watch your link also. Thank you for sharing my friend.

 

 

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@REDLINEZ750 @DownMoreThanUp @ENKELI @Appleblossom @tyme 

Thank you @REDLINEZ750 for the support, 50 days is huge to me. I'm happy i'm getting my numbers up now.

It's all freedom from here.

I hope you all have a great weekend.

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@Moose123 Psalm 34 happens to be one of my favourite psalm, one i love to share with brothers and sisters down deep, it is so very good. From beginning to end really. For how true is it that those who call upon The Lord are blessed His Good Life?

 

 

Dine on The Word my friend, this is how you will receive The Bread that will grow you your new life. i know that when we eat down here it has cost and effort involved.

 

However the good thing about Heavenly Manna is that He is for free, and comes down into us while hiding in our hiding place, it is there The word of God feeds us Christ's eternal truth, love and goodness to eat. Where we are fed we never die again, that is how The Living Word overcomes our bad life, taking thus up to Him, one by one. (Isaiah 27:12-13) Until in all of our 144,000 chosen have died His love and truth, and we are raised to rule our life with Him God's Kingdom of love and peace. Just like Scripture promises.(Revelation 7)

 

So, as you are doing with your life stuck with that horrible spirit of demand and addiction, do lay down all life within that is wrong and hurtful to you. For i learned to understand that it are not the objects of our addiction you we need to overcome, but those crappy 'spirits' controlling those goodies through our emotions gone wrong, which are the problem.

 

So let God's merciful loving truth have you born Anew His Kingdom a free person. Alive in His love and truth forever, and in your whole life, every minute of your day, my friend. For such a life is truly liberating. And is what i know Jesus is aiming for, for all those who dare let Him take control over their lives so they may come and rule life in and with Him. 

 

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Glad to hear you are seeing a path forward. @Moose123  Sometimes it really is just step by step and a few good routines. I have lived in 2 drug capitals in this land. One when I was a kid and one when I was much younger, working and surrounded by it. I got off by taking a trip back to the “Cross”, and looking at it all hard in the eye, and remembering my innocent 9 year old self walking those streets, lol, not. lol…Oh dear, there are too many puns in my life… so many layers of irony and meaning…

 

love your picture with the rocks and the view…

 

@REDLINEZ750 

@tyme 

@ENKELI 

 

jeez @DownMoreThanUp I can imagine you can be a feisty devil. lol and a bit challenging. Recently, I have had more contact with the intensity of manic energy. I do wonder if you intensify your inner turmoil and wonder if you are able to be kinder and gentler to yourself. Maybe summon some of the spirit like you cared for the homeless. 

 

My experience of mental illness was different when I was young. Schizophrenia, shame and extreme poverty. Not much spare energy or money for big verbal statements. Not many church goers have had understanding or compassion, mostly it has been awkward contempt, and I move away or be silent. I do treasure the few sporadic good moments. Always have been grateful, cos it was very blooming obvious how much worse life could be, in the places I grew up. Eg , the nuns were kind in the first orphanage when I was 6.

tbh I have difficulty with too many “God is good” statements , and tend to just be quiet and reflective. I have seen too many loved ones suffer.

 

I do understand the importance in having hope in God’s goodness for human beings to help navigate hard times.

 

 I used to really love singing a hymn Come as you are, but that church was struggling with the Pell situation and forgetting who Jesus Christ was. I guess I need to take their bad behaviour as their problem. I was pushed out 10 years ago. Yes, of course, I had helped the homeless in the CBD in many ways over many years. I grieve the good things about the Catholic tradition. 

 

I am in another denomination and place now. I now have a beautiful picture of St Francis feeding the birds on my wall. My son bought it for me from a garage sale for $10. It has a soft bronzed battered feel. Nothing new or expensive would have been better.

 

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 you do have a real talent for poetry @DownMoreThanUp and its cool how ive seen you use scripture entirely in stanzas

 

yeah more a calling or a reminder maybe, i am born again actively and right here right now im  proclaiming it and he knows my heart and this is worship as more than i are praising his his name so im always encouraged when it comes to the last covenant of salvation through the blood of Christ  its been  a year since had nose into scripture and my NIV is always right there in full view 

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@Moose123 I was borderline alcoholic and knew I could possibly become addicted as my grandfather and father were both alcoholics. 
One day I just didn't feel like drinking anymore and now I I probably have a drink once or twice a year at most.

I know God took the desire to drink away. He saw what was happening to me and also my health. I am ever so grateful.

I doubt anyone would judge you for vaping at the moment, that you gave up other addictions is amazing and you know you'll be able to quit vaping when the time comes. Again it was with the grace of God that I was able to quit. I had the quit smoking medication for about a fortnight, maybe 3 weeks and then I just stopped all together. I'd tried at least 4 times before without success so this time I asked God to help.

 

I'll keep you on my prayer list, and again congratulations, such an amazing achievement!

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@REDLINEZ750 I struggle with motivation so doing Bible study is near on impossible. Last night I decided I was going to listen to a book each night for a month and then choose another book the next month. I am currently listening to Mark and while I was surprised at how much I already knew, I was also a little less impressed at how much I didn't know.

 

@Appleblossom @DownMoreThanUp @Moose123 @tyme @Shaz51 @avant-garde do you have any tips for studying the Scriptures? 

 

Hope y'all are having a lovely day 🫂