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@Appleblossom your picture of St Francis sounds like a real treasure. Worth more than a priceless painting.

I am not Catholic but I have always liked St Francis, especially being the patron saint of animals.

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@ENKELI  A share you a few things i learned and that helped me learn to love The word of God above all written words.

 

(Please do understand that not only did i hardly ever read God's Word before i leaned to love the book meeting Jesus in my heart, in the past i had often i  strong feelings of animosity against it. Thinking/feeling The bible did not know what life in the 20 century was about. (Like i charged the book of Proverbs, Scriptures seemingly sexist, and what i termed at the time paradoxical comments, and of course the book of Revelation, where it seemed to me that the Saviour of the world really ended up much more its judge, and God's grace, supposedly for all, appeared invisible to those living fallen lives down here.)

 

  • To not understand God's word to be literally but ONLY spiritually as been my biggest Teacher ever. Where i let The Word teach me to understand The Word, and that only His truth i trust to say what God says in His Word, not what others have said, spoken, or written, about God or His Word. Never again will i let others tell me things about about God's Word, however useful such can be, as God's Word to me, but only when The word speaks/reveals His truth to me, as The Living Word, will i believe what i hear/live inside of me.
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  • i learned to read the word of God as Jesus/God talking to me, and learned to only HEED Him where inside my heart He talked to me.  God speaking to to me the sheep and to those ugly goats hiding in the shadows pulling the strings without me knowing or seeing them do this. The Spirit of Jesus always speaks the Word in love for God The Father, you with the love of God, and your neighbour with the same love. Only then do i know it is he truth of the Word of God speaking and not satan imitating the Spirit, but a wolf in sheep clothing to be. The good thing i learned to understand is that the devil cannot pretend to love God, us, or others than self interest, a selfish spirit can never hear the word of God rightly, for a selfish spirit has no concern for the interest of others.
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  • i never read the word of God when feel pressured in my heart to do so, but only when The Holy Spirit in my heart calls me to. The Holy Spirit has me want/love/need/crave/curious after God's Word!
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  • When i seek God's Word to me i will always open the Word of God randomly, to let God speak, not what i feel i need to read, or have confirmed to be true. And if i do not understand why He has me read what i read, i ask Him to reveal it to me, by opening my eyes to His truth and AWAIT His answer. For i trust God to never say anything to me without the purpose of doing/building Good to/in me. (Isaiah 55)
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  • i never speculate on the meaning of God's Word any more. For in the end, me speculating about God's word in me, had me fall big time believing lies about God, myself and my neighbour. Me erroneously heeding, what later The Holy Spirit revealed to be the False Prophet in my mind, and his unfaithful frog-demons rioting and fighting, always jumping around in my fallen reality whn the fresh waters in my life have turned to blood/bitter/wormwood..
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These revelations of, and about God's word in me, and to me, proved to be a real eye opener. For Scripture revealed the Red Dragon, as that horrible accuser within my guilty conscience, while that inner voice/thoughts always speculating on everything The Word of God said, the voice of the false prophet, while my sin craving heart ruling me only ungodly kings, untrue, not true me, to be liberated from.

 

Even as my religious ways turned out to be the very 'unfaithful love' within me riding The Beast ruling my mind with carnal laws, values, rules, and the self created misery they bring inside of me heeding them. And these unholy forces inside of my heart had clearly activated all my bad life inside of me. (Yet me understanding forever the word of God as purely spiritual, and as true, as true Jesus, could ever be true inside my heart to be! The Living Word speaking in love fore all never ever lies to me or puts me under any kind of pressure rather He sparks love for God, self and other inside of me.😁)

 

i hope this will be helpful learning to love the word of God and not to feel bad not reading it, but understanding that not living His truth, is when we miss out big time on His Good Life. For it is not the book/letter you are after, nor more religious conviction, but The Living Word, Jesus our Saviour, The word of God reveals within to us, as His Spirit Alive within.(John 14-17)

 

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Here another person who has been taught to read the bible to his heart. Although i do not know him personally, it has been very good to see he understands the the personal truth of God's Word to be Jesus within us as well. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBb6jqUzenE

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@ENKELI I don’t come from a tradition that is as biblical based as some. I might have my bible by my pillow for months, then put it back on the shelf til next time I feel it is good to read it again. It’s the same one from secondary college. Last I focused on Wisdom and Proverbs. I also sometimes follow the general lectionary. Many denominations follow the same lectionary, with readings and seasons in the liturgical calendar. From teaching catechism as a teen, I learned to be relaxed but a bit structured about it. Listen to your own spirit as it guides you.

 

I also did liturgical dance, love icons, and do a lot of liturgical music. I really value the range of sacred arts as a way into discernment and listening to the Holy Spirit.

I was very much book based as a child, and even when not in the church for about 15 years, I was never strongly for or against the bible. I have seen debates about the bible get uncomfortable. I keep it gentle. I appreciate the circular way I was brought back to reading it, at my secular uni, doing an essay on the Song of Songs.

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@ENKELI I'm only just learning myself but I use a free bible app from the app store.

It has verses and videos of people presenting the word of God so the app might help you.

I struggle myself with studying the bible.

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I know @ENKELI im going to make it a goal to open my NIV every morning and maybe start the daily reading plan again at least its got a lot of colourful highlights this time 

 

it is so simple to do and the fact its rught there i can see it now and havent done creates such a spiral of the crap churches taught about because im a sinner and thats just rubbish im being lazy and i feel guilty for not being a good child of Christ i am however still a child of Christ and loved flawed as are you

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@DownMoreThanUp @Appleblossom @Moose123 thanks for your responses, I will reply individually as soon as this wretched headache leaves me alone!

Thanks again xo

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i have no idea what liturgical means @Appleblossom is it like chronological?

 

i hope your headaches better  @ENKELI

 

i got 2 paieces of scripture on my mind at the moment @Downmorethanup one is about i struggle  to do what i wish to do but i can easily do the things i wish i did not do and other one is that theres nothing new under the sun.

 

no way is that quoted word for word i know it will be close enough fpor me to find in my notes i think

 

 

the guy says to God 

 

i can not do that i want to do for i always do that i do not want to do

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@ENKELI - just wrote this

 

When I think about heaven

It's where I long to be

When I think about heaven

And the future I don't see

 

A future that I long for

Secure in Your embrace

Forever my Beloved

Only by Your grace

 

Earth is not eternal

Heaven is my home

Forever my Beloved

Seated next to God 

 

The tender care You show me

Wiping every tear

Catching me when I stumble

Holding me when I'm scared

 

Like a Father to his daughter

Or a husband to a wife

The nearness that I feel

Since the day You saved my life

 

Earth is not eternal

Heaven is my home

Forever my Beloved

Seated next to God 

 

Not a second have You left me

Since the moment You made me Yours

That You are still my Saviour

And You are still my Lord

 

Earth is not eternal

Heaven is my home

Forever my Beloved

Seated next to God 

 

One day soon in Heaven

When I shall see Your face

My friend and my Beloved

Redeemed only by Your grace

 

For earth is not eternal

Heaven is our home

Waiting on forever

Waiting for You to come

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@ENKELI

This is beautiful.

It was just what I needed to hear.

Mum is in palliative care and it's been a rough week.

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@ENKELI  How are you feeling today sis? i hope your head ache has abated? Hoping you have a wonderful day.

 

@Bessie78 @avant-garde @REDLINEZ750 @Moose123 @heartathome @Appleblossom 

 

Have a blessed Today.

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