Frank Discussion of BPD: *WARNING* May be confronting

[Change123]

@Former-Member@Phoenix_Rising Thanks for your comments.

To be honest I dont know any BPD who enjoys causing distress to others  but I can understand how we get misinterpreted.  I find when I'm not well I cant articulate my feelings or wants as easy (cant find the right words) and usually whilst trying I say the wrong thing and it gets taken completely opposite to what I mean.  I also find it hard to understand simple things when I'm in that state.  My partner can say something to me and its like "blah blah blah" like its taking ages to process and I feel very confused at the time like my brain is just spinning.

Anyway must go for a while now.

Take care all

  

[Former-Member]

@Change123   wrote:  "The other thing I'm wondering one of the traits of BPD can be narciscissm"

Change, yes and this is one of my big issues with the so called BPD diagnosis.  I believe it would make it easier if what you described in your first post today, are viewed as BPD.  The reason being if NPD, or NPD traits are thrown into the mix and still elicit a diagnosis of BPD, things start getting very warped. 

Two main reasons: 

1. NPD and BPD are both very complex in their own rights but driven by very different motivation and needs. 
   
   
2. If a BPD diagnosis  excludes NPD Traits then it is far easier to research and develop a suitable therapy and easier for the person (carer or therapist)  trying to help. Not to mention easier for the sufferers themselves.

Once NPD issues are thrown in on top of it, the waters muddy.  [NPD + BPD] combined is a far different person than BPD alone. Many of the symptoms overlap and can appear similar.  But when complicated by the NPD the symptoms of BPD can be used in a very different way to a person without N traits. Here-in lies the complication.

To me NPD is the stronger of the two and will always dominate the BPD.  That is the need to satisfy the self will always dominate in a situation where they coexist.

Therapists who are unknowingly dismissing the NPD traits and dealing solely with the BPD aspects would likely just end up

                 

Oh....    and when he would laugh at me it would be when I was in my worst pain, for example in a foetal position on the floor sobbing uncontrollably.  He'd laugh at me gleefully, and just turn and walk out.