09-08-2017 12:26 PM
09-08-2017 12:26 PM
getting back to being cross or feeling cross even recognising that the feeling is "cross"
my father brought me up with the emphasis of being "a lady", as he saw his mother in this light. In his eyes no other female measured or came even close to being "a lady"
so I could never measure up
this seems like such a simple idea, nothing nasty or aggressive or cruel
as part of this role of being a lady he taught me to count to ten if I felt cross about anything as "anger" was not a nice feeling and would be seen as being rude if expressed by a lady
currently I am struggling with chest pains, chest burning, tension, anxiety, nervous energy forcing, pushing itself against my chest
I have been searching madly within my head to try to discover what exactly I am so anxious about
I know that anxiety is fear of the future and that the future has not yet been written
I know that it is far more helpful for me to live in the now and this theory I applied in the weeks leading up to going overseas
Of course whilst I was overseas, I had no therapy, my mental as anything mind did not recognise that I was way and needed a break
so my thinking is that all of that extra nervous energy had nowhere to go except coursing back through my veins, dissipating into my body
now that I am back from overseas and feeling better for my experiences, this nervous energy is on the move
part of this nervous energy is "anger" not "cross" not "rage" just pure anger
I have not a clue about what or which bit of my life or why just that it is anger and in thinking this I am feeling some relief in my chest and feeling emotion welling up in my throat
yes it is trying to escape and can't
it is a good thing that it can move when it wants to
09-08-2017 03:18 PM
09-08-2017 03:18 PM
Thanks @Owlunar I read STEP and tried implement many ideas when my girls were young.
I was in the very vulnerable position of giving up my work and study to become a step parent with full care and custody but little authority to determine how things went and eventually lost health.
Generally I am independent, not in a wilfull way, but just because nobody else was going to do anything for me so I had to do it. One develops skills and determination. With a vulnerable biological child, though I could not push him away but let him find his path. I was so isolated during the early period of my mothering, apart from seeing a social worker in Adoptive Services for 6 months til they became frightened of being taken to court by the child's mother, I REALLY VALUE these posts.
@Former-Member
The way you talk about feelings is very helpful and makes a lot of sense to me. Sometimes I use the concept of chakras but they are also loaded with cultural assumptions which can cloud true understanding. Also the moral issues around anger are different to the psychological or physiological issues. It helps me to be kind to myself about it, as I have never believed it to be right to throw anger around willy nilly. I was also raised with strong concepts of the importance of being a LADY ( in which I failed dreadfully).
On the day of the workshop with that woman I felt those burning intense feelings and had difficulty focussing on the workshop content becasue I was overwhelmed, but I did not sit on the feelings or hold them down, I found some ways to express them which was IMPORTANT.
1) I told the lady in question to grow a conscience, which was stating my expectation and not being blamey or abusive.
2) I told woman in authority I was struggling.
3) I pulled it together during tea break and had a chat with a young mum about the strength of maternal feelings and reactions, without disclosing situation to her.
4) We went to opera and at end, the mother and sister passed my son and I in our seats. The mother made a point of thanking my son a few times for being generous. I was glad that at least he got that.
Another weird thing happened at the opera. queueing for the cloak room was a conductor who had asked me to leave my church choir and with whom I had the VERY DISTRESSING flare up last Christmas Eve. At first I was shocked and he also was to recognise me, but then as he left the theatre he made a very deliberate and friendly wave to my son and I, as he never did anything like that in the 7 years I sang with him. I found it interesting. It was like he knew I was not really in the wrong and acknowledged me. That felt healing and good.
Then we briefly went to after party. It was good for my son to look at the finished product from the position of the audience and to catch up with a few people.
09-08-2017 04:07 PM
09-08-2017 04:07 PM
Hello @Appleblossom
I also like your style of writing...you write with great depth and I feel intensity
reading my own of course is coloured by my feelings before the words are even translated into meaning
I use this as a journal... I write as I think and feel, trying to make sense of both
Yes,I am aware that there are so many theories, systems that I could use to map out and decipher meanings. however, I want to keep this as pure as possible
I do not want to take these unexplained feelings on a journey where I might expose them to translations from those who have made money
this is an ongoing exercise for me to sit, feel, observe, live, breathe, notice and allow feeling that I am not in any danger, or under any threat. I am safe.
It sounds as though you are good at being assertive, as am I mostly.
Standing up for myself though, I found difficult growing up. Even now on occasions, with certain people, I still have to be aware of any bristles in my responses, attempting to smoothe them over articulately when noticed.
Recognition and thanks are important to you and I am pleased to hear that you received both.
Funny how life has a way of allowing us sometimes to see others whom we held in such dread as just another person in the crowd. He has had some time dwelling on that occasion and realised that your son and yourself can hold your heads high, without any thanks to him.
You mention that it was good for your son to observe such moments. I believe that it was very good for both of you in each other's company to be acknowledged, thanked and enjoy the environment within you have put much love.
a turning point for you both appleblossom.
09-08-2017 04:24 PM
09-08-2017 04:24 PM
Yes it is the integration of mind and theory and body and heart and feeling that makes for soul.
Nothing glib there.
I was not at all vocal or assertive as a child. As a mother I found the importance of vocalising and noting an issue . .. eg to tell the kinder or prep teacher.
As a private music teacher I learned and observed students parents partners etc ... and learned ... and was encouraged to assert. In last 5-10 years I tried to apply what I had learned.
So yes. Now I can ... but it took a while ....
It is a privilege to share the journey .. a little.
I try and respect that I can extend my imagination but can never really know what another person really goes through.
Regards
09-08-2017 04:31 PM
09-08-2017 04:31 PM
hello @Appleblossom
thank you
Yes I was a very self conscious, shy, quietly spoken female who started work within the finance industry. My first client told me that I had eyes like a cow. I fled to the ladies as soon as he left and cried. What a ridiculous comment and even more ridiculous reaction. Reality though.
I gained confidence but not self love.......
I didnt realise that you were a music teacher. I can add up all of the ingredients that I know and create a response. You are truly gifted. Music is such beauty for the soul.
What a shame I cannot hear you play.
I am pleased that you are in a happier place today, hold onto that feeling, soak it up. xxxx
09-08-2017 11:21 PM
09-08-2017 11:21 PM
@Former-Member
It helped me handle myself a great deal having had wise girlfriend posts and support from you & @Owlunar
Dec I did finally read those coroners reports when I had a quiet few days. I am alright. Dealing with these kind of issues alone is difficult.
Thanks
10-08-2017 02:08 PM
10-08-2017 02:08 PM
Hi @Appleblossom@Former-Member
It is really good to know that these girl-friend posts are helpful Apple - and also - you have read the coroner's report - yes - I truly do know how hard that is
I was anything but a quiet and retiring girl - definitely not in the mold anyone required - but seemed to please my father - I was a tomboy and clever and not at all backward about letting people know how clever I was - it was the way I was born and definitely part of my rebellion against my mother
I am glad you read STEP Apple - I did it twice - or rather started it the second time but it was too hard for the other women in the group with me there - saying terrible things like "Why does your son have to wear pyjamas to bed?" - I was asked to leave and the leader agreed with me that my problems with my son were so much worse - and that I needed it more - but ah yeah ...........nuf said
My mother couldn't understand what I meant when I said that certain things were my son's problem - not mine - her narrow mind freezes me to this day but these things are in my memory - not happening now
I do understand about creativity being important to instill as much as possible into our children - providing them with the chances - and yes - about being an adoptive parent - I am wondering if people get some education when adopting children now - it's harder than people think - as you know
So glad what I so quickly write on-line helps Apple and Mohill - you are pretty great with your ideas too - they help me - both of you
Dec
10-08-2017 10:38 PM
12-08-2017 02:26 PM
12-08-2017 02:26 PM
No need to reply
this is about me writing my thoughts down..releasing tension..avoiding burying
I am angry about all of the medical profession over the years who have let me down and now all of those who have let my son down
all of the marketing...hype about mental illness
are you ok day???? what about the other 364 days of the year. don't ask because you are told to, to make yourself feel better, to play the game, pretend that you are empathic...stop the deceit
what about the clues.....the paranoia???...the isolation...the state of the room..the lack of hygiene..,the loss of motivation...of pride?
yes I am angry...I actually have a right to be..I am justified in feeling angry
my son is angry too,,,,and frightened.....yes he has a right to be ...yes he is justified in having those feelings
he is a real person
15-08-2017 12:11 PM
15-08-2017 12:11 PM
I have been despairing about my older son whom has not got in touch with me for over 3 weeks
I rang the mental health helpline in state where I believe him to be and they have not heard anything from anyone about him....they have his details on their database from when I rang earlier in the year all of the hospitals etc
I rang his father yesterday...left a message...I find him so difficult to talk to...nothing has changed there from when we were married....we keep the communication channels open as much as we can or should I say I do...he rings me when he hasn't heard....I let him know if neither of us have heard and then son rings me...doesnt work the other way though...now I am sounding negative ...
he rang me back though and said he had heard from him about a week ago wanting money....lost keys.,.wanting to change padlocks...found keys...not sure...cant remember...I told him that I had received some dreadfullly frightening text messages...he said he had too....then told me that son has gone back to study...he also told his dad that he has tried to ring me a couple of times
this is wonderful news.....having some reality time in his world thank goodness
when you dont see the person with the illness....you read their alarming fears in text...you dont think oh well that is only a small portion of his time...the rest of the time he is living his life without concerns
you think the worst...human nature
honestly I am so relieved that:
he is alive
he is studying
he is having some level of quality of life some of the time
he has telephoned his father..... at least one of his parents all of the time
he possibly tried to ring me
he is getting out when he goes to study
I am cross...angry about:
he has not responded to my text messages
he has not told me that he is studying
realisation:
He is struggling to lead a life...the fact that he is not in contact is possibly because his focus is on getting to study which would be huge...I know how hard it is for me to get to the shops or go for a walk, let alone drive somewhere most days and I dont have schizophrenia.
so back to practising living in the now
I am so relieved that he is alive
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